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PostSubject: silent hill   Fri Dec 04, 2009 9:00 am

ok in silent hill. when dark alessa is explaning what happen to rose, she says "for 30 years". which would mean that it would have been 30 years since what happened to the real alsesa. sharon is suposted to be the goodness thats left of the real alessa. so if this is true wouldnt sharon be in her 30's not 8?
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PostSubject: Re: silent hill   Fri Dec 04, 2009 8:46 pm

Sharon is a manifestation of Alessa’s innocence, so says “the Reaper”. She was manifested at the right time in order for Rose to be summoned to Silent Hill. After all, Rose is the catalyst of Alessa’s hate and anger. This is why the time line doesn’t seem to fit, however, it does. This part of the movies falls in place with the game. Cheryl, from the original game, was manifested at a later time in order for Harry to be summoned to Silent Hill to stop Dahlia.

With all of that in mind, and to answer the biggest question, Sharon and Rose are both dead. Sharon never truly existed as a seperate entity and was just bait used by Alessa. Rose needed to cross over in order to bring “justice” to the Cult. Now, some of you may wonder why Cybil had also crossed over. This is simple: to protect Rose. Alessa could conjure the Dark Silent Hill, but only control certain aspects. The monsters are something Alessa had no power over. You may ask, why do the monsters back off after a while? Well, Alessa could only control the Dark Silent Hill for a period of time.

In the movie, Rose realizes her own death. It is not clearly presented, but she does make it known. She does so by telling the Cultists that they have burned in the fire they created to “cleanse” an innocent child. She goes on to tell them that they are already damned. This was was made apparent to her by the demon, otherwise know as “the Reaper”. I would even venture to say that she is the dark force Samael, however this is never confirmed.

Also, remember that Rose is the key player in this whole story. It stands to reason why she is stuck in “limbo” as some may call it. They present the reason several times in the movie. Rose often repeats, “mother is god in the eyes of a child”. At the end of the movie, Alessa is reunited with the rest of herself, so to speak, and she wants nothing more than to be with her mother and thus is the reason they never leave the foggy world.

As for the bodies, they are never found for two reasons. One is for the audience to ponder the conclusion of what became of them. Honestly, how fun would it have been if the bodies had been presented? The second reason is that both Rose and Cybil had been pulled into foggy Silent Hill. Detective Gucci mentions that most of the bodies were never found, if you haven’t realized it by now he is referring to the Cultists. Of course he doesn’t mean that deliberately, but it is the truth. As for Gucci, he’s the only thing I can’t quite explain. As time went on, he never aged. Perhaps it was left this way for cinematic value. Who knows.

Remember with Silent Hill everything has to be scrutinized. There are layers that have to be examined closely. The movie makes sense, it just takes some time to understand it all, which is what makes Silent Hill so fucking incredible.

I apologize for this abridged explanation. It’s late, and I’m tired. I hope that this clears up a lot of your questions, or at least allows you to draw your own conclusions. Now, if you think that was a difficult story to make sense of, go and enjoy Silent Hill 2 (video game). The writing is just as amazing and much more constructed as a feasible story.
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PostSubject: Re: silent hill   Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:38 am

Errors in geography: The gas station Rose stopped at and passes at the end has gas listed as per liters instead of the American gallons.


Continuity: When Christopher and officer Gucci, who's wearing a blue tie and gray trench coat, come out of the building, the camera switches back and forth between Rose and Christopher. When it finally reveals officer Gucci in the background, behind Christopher, we notice he's wearing a different colored tie and trench coat.


Continuity: When Christopher pulls up to the police barricade, he steps out of the car soaking wet before any of the rain touches him.


Factual errors: The image of West Virginia on Cybil's arm patches is backwards.


Continuity: When Christabella drops her dagger after stabbing Rose in the church, it comes to rest with its point touching the floor and its handle slightly raised. When we see it again, it is the tip that is slightly raised so as to drip Rose's blood on the floor. When we see it next, the tip is back on the floor.


Factual errors: When Christopher asks about Sharon at the garage, the mechanic is working on a Dodge Magnum with a West Virginia license plate on the front of the car. West Virginia doesn't require, nor is it possible to have, a state license plate on the front of the car.


Continuity: When Rose first enters the town of Silent Hill, as she is spinning around yelling for Sharon, a red vehicle can be seen a few feet away behind her. Once she sees Sharon and the camera pans out, the red vehicle is now down the road as she is running towards Sharon.


Revealing mistakes: The film is supposed to take place in West Virginia, yet all the local townspeople have distinguishable Canadian accents - the movie's primary filming location.


Errors made by characters (possibly deliberate errors by the filmmakers): On the bridge scene where Chris is talking to the detective, Chris never mentions that his daughter is with Rose. At the end of their discussion the detective says "We'll find your wife and daughter".


Continuity: When Cybil and Rose are trapped in the room hiding from Pyramid Head, when he reaches in and starts to pull up bar blocking the door the bar hardly moves. When Cybil shoots his arm and he pulls it back the bar is way up away from the hands.


Audio/visual unsynchronized: In the search for room 111, Rose cuts open the painting and the camera pulls in for a shot of the door and room number behind the painting. You can then hear Rose cutting the painting more to make room for her body, but in the shot, there are no new slices in the painting nor is it even evident that the painting is being disturbed. However, in the next shot, the hole is clearly wider than it was before, the corner shaped differently than it was in the previous image.


Revealing mistakes: When Rose is in the bathroom at the old school, she walks over to The Janitor to take something out of his mouth. If you look very closely, when she sticks her hand through the "barbed wire", it grazes her skin and you can plainly see that it is made out of rubber.


Revealing mistakes: When Alessa rises into the church to take revenge on the people responsible for her current state (after Rose is stabbed), you can notice that the burnt make up done on her is actually bandage and the bandage has not covered her elbow. Her actual elbow is showing when all of her body parts are suppose to be scarred.


Revealing mistakes: As the miners are trying to break down the washroom door, the camera pans over the door frame from Rose's side to the miners' side. Just as it settles into its final position, you can see the sliding wall section they used to allow the camera to pan, sliding back into position on the left of the door frame.


Continuity: When Chris arrives at the police barricade, the angle of the gates at the bridge changes a few times between shots.


Continuity: When the deformed creature comes out from behind the wire gate and begins to walk over to Cybil and Rose, Cybil puts her left hand up onto her gun twice between shots, before beginning to shoot it.


Continuity: When Rose arrives at her Jeep to find her mobile phone, her locket jumps into her blouse between shots.


Continuity: When Chris pulls up at the bridge barricade, he gets out and his collar is down. In the very next shot his Burberry collar is sticking right up.


Continuity: When Rose first wakes up from the car crash she enters her car and reaches for her phone in the center console of her car. The next frame the phone's lanyard is around her neck.


Continuity: When Rose first makes it to Silent Hill she screams out for Sharon as the camera rotates around her. In the first shot her hair is in her face, the next it's not, then it is again. This happens several times between each time the camera rotates.


Crew or equipment visible: When Christopher breaks into the Brahams archives offices at about 0:59:45, the clearly visible orange anodized end caps and typical wiring on the fluorescent tubes identify them as Kino-Flo lights, a specialist type manufactured solely for the film industry. The arrangement is quite different to a conventional domestic lighting system. Orange end-caps indicate a tungsten-balanced tube; blue would be daylight.


Factual errors: Agent Cybil Bennett uses a Surefire M6 Guardian flashlight that has a temporary tailswitch with a twist on constant switch, but in the movie you can clearly hear the typical click of a click on switch.


Continuity: As the long-haired cult member is smothered by Alessa's barbed wire, the ladder that Sharon is supposed to be tied to is clearly visible and Sharon is not there.


Revealing mistakes: When Rose first enters Silent Hill, right before the camera starts circling around her, you can see that her locket isn't a locket at all but an oval key chain.


Continuity: When the Rose and daughter return to their car after being gone for quite some time, the car is clean, despite the constant falling of ash.


Plot holes: The creatures are supposed to appear only during the darkness, yet the armless creatures appear when it's light.
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PostSubject: Re: silent hill   Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:41 pm

Oh fuck it. I'm no way explaining all of that. XD
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